8Fs from Turkey

tadpole · July 20, 2011, 09:15:40 AM

Did anyone see the programme on channel 5 last night about the rescue of a pair of 8Fs from Turkey. It's probably been on before (I don't watch much c5, and suspect alot of it is repeats), but I thoroughly enjoyed it. Not just for the 8Fs, but for those good looking Turkish diesels - although they seem underpowered for the heavy freights and steep gradients. I had forgotten how long some of Turkey's single track sections were, and a three-hour wait in a passing loop is not unusual, apparently (even for passenger trains if things go wrong!).

Lawrence · July 20, 2011, 09:27:21 AM

Very much enjoyed it Tadpole, though I know sod all about British stuff I found it fascinating. The sparks shooting from the traction motor on that first Turkish diesel were impressive, though you would think they would have doubled headed prior to that second climb.

Did you note which preservation line it was that was recovering them, it would be interesting to see how they are getting on with them.

scotsoft · July 20, 2011, 10:25:56 AM

Great programme, I enjoyed the banter between all the guys but when they lost half of the white bearing I thought all was lost. Finding and refitting it showed what a few basic tools can achieve along with British stubborness

kevin141 · July 22, 2011, 07:23:57 PM

hi all
enjoyed the program just to remind all that next week on yesterday channel it is train week may be worth a look

kevin 141

Newportnobby · July 22, 2011, 08:15:19 PM

Quote from: tadpole on July 20, 2011, 09:15:40 AM
Did anyone see the programme on channel 5 last night about the rescue of a pair of 8Fs from Turkey. It's probably been on before (I don't watch much c5, and suspect alot of it is repeats), but I thoroughly enjoyed it. Not just for the 8Fs, but for those good looking Turkish diesels - although they seem underpowered for the heavy freights and steep gradients. I had forgotten how long some of Turkey's single track sections were, and a three-hour wait in a passing loop is not unusual, apparently (even for passenger trains if things go wrong!).

This is one programme I hope they do repeat 'cos I missed it, and I don't think Channel 5 have a catch up

fisherman · July 22, 2011, 08:19:17 PM

google 'demand five'......

this should work...

was a great prog!!!

longbridge · July 22, 2011, 08:38:00 PM

Its hard to believe but we actually had that documentary aired over here in Australia, the same chap that rescued the 8fs also wants to rescue a Robinson ROD loco from Dorrigo Railway museum here in Australia and return it home the the UK, sadly the bloke that owns two of them including around another 60+ locos is not interested, he would rather leave them out in the weather to rot, if he really liked steam locos you would think he would be pleased to have one of his locos running

Just a very small portion of his locos.

SymonC · July 22, 2011, 08:45:31 PM

Quote from: tadpole on July 20, 2011, 09:15:40 AM
Did anyone see the programme on channel 5 last night about the rescue of a pair of 8Fs from Turkey. It's probably been on before (I don't watch much c5, and suspect alot of it is repeats), but I thoroughly enjoyed it. Not just for the 8Fs, but for those good looking Turkish diesels - although they seem underpowered for the heavy freights and steep gradients. I had forgotten how long some of Turkey's single track sections were, and a three-hour wait in a passing loop is not unusual, apparently (even for passenger trains if things go wrong!).

It was actually a new programme in the series "Monster Moves". Thoroughly enjoyed it.

Richard @ N'Tastic Scale Models · July 22, 2011, 09:17:29 PM

Sat watching it now on 5 demand on cable TV.

Newportnobby · July 22, 2011, 09:57:02 PM

Thanks guys - just watched it on my laptop. Epic stuff! £100,000 to buy and ship. How much to restore I wonder??

poliss · July 22, 2011, 10:11:42 PM

One of the 8Fs is now at Shildon and will be restored at Storey Engineering in Hepscott, Northumberland.
http://www.nrm.org.uk/AboutUs/PressOffice/PressReleases/2011/January/shildon_newlocos.aspx

1whitemoor · July 23, 2011, 12:19:45 AM

Quote from: oldrailbug on July 22, 2011, 08:38:00 PM
Its hard to believe but we actually had that documentary aired over here in Australia, the same chap that rescued the 8fs also wants to rescue a Robinson ROD loco from Dorrigo Railway museum here in Australia and return it home the the UK, sadly the bloke that owns two of them including around another 60+ locos is not interested, he would rather leave them out in the weather to rot, if he really liked steam locos you would think he would be pleased to have one of his locos running

Just a very small portion of his locos.

atleast they were saved from the cutters torch.

It has to be said that many people wish to preserve locomotives, with no intention of returning them to working order, and this is not "wrong".

If this individual has the funds to aquire these locomotives and the determination to aquire them, he at least seems capable of keeping them in good order cosmetically
.
I must say, the black scheme of all the locomotives really shows off vast array engineering between different locomotive builders very well.

longbridge · July 23, 2011, 12:52:54 AM

I take your point but sadly there is no way that this chap will ever realize his dream in his lifetime, I visit Dorrigo on a regular basis and there never seems to be much done from one year to the next, sorry but IMO and many other Australian train fans that take into account that these locos have been saved by the cutters torch some locos would be better off being shared around other preserved railways, no matter if they were returned to steam or not a coat of paint as a static display piece would be better than sitting in a field, the museum is not open to the public so no one can really enjoy his collection also most of these locos have been purchased by a Government Grant which of course is public money.

Add all of that to the fact that Dorrigo is about 60km off the main highway between Brisbane and Sydney I doubt if people would ever make the effort to visit Dorrigo, the setup at Dorrigo is a Lemon now and always will be and I think giving The Robinson ROD a chance to steam again would be a sensible thing to do.

1whitemoor · July 23, 2011, 08:27:09 AM

Quote from: oldrailbug on July 23, 2011, 12:52:54 AM
I take your point but sadly there is no way that this chap will ever realize his dream in his lifetime, I visit Dorrigo on a regular basis and there never seems to be much done from one year to the next, sorry but IMO and many other Australian train fans that take into account that these locos have been saved by the cutters torch some locos would be better off being shared around other preserved railways, no matter if they were returned to steam or not a coat of paint as a static display piece would be better than sitting in a field, the museum is not open to the public so no one can really enjoy his collection also most of these locos have been purchased by a Government Grant which of course is public money.

Add all of that to the fact that Dorrigo is about 60km off the main highway between Brisbane and Sydney I doubt if people would ever make the effort to visit Dorrigo, the setup at Dorrigo is a Lemon now and always will be and I think giving The Robinson ROD a chance to steam again would be a sensible thing to do.

I had no idea of the perticulars of this "museum", my apologies. Although I do think there is often merit in conservation and not restortion to working order, your point still stands that this example apparantly is not asuring the conservation and even the appreciation of these exhibits

REFaust · July 23, 2011, 03:33:03 PM

I missed this but had a watch on 'Demand 5', thanks to it being mentioned here and enjoyed it very much. Looking forward to seeing what Yesterday are going to have in their 'train week'

R E Faust