RevolutioN Trains - All steel ‘K-type’ Pullmans

[talisman56]

Been waiting for these for years!!!

[talisman56]

Does anyone happen to know if the Pullmans visible in this video from about
5:40 passing through Birmingham Snow Hill are of this type?

All the Pullmans in the indicated train are 'K' types. The similar looking 1951 Pullmans can be distinguished by having square toilet windows...

NB: The above distinguishing feature only applies to period images. It looks like most, if not all of the preserved examples of 1951-type have oval windows, smaller than those traditionally fitted to the previous type Pullmans, and mounted higher up the bodyside. Whether this is a post-preservation change or something that was implemented during their service life is something I will have to investigate... EDIT: The window change was post-preservation on the VSOE cars to make them similar to the other (majority) of cars on the train which have original oval windows.

The Brighton electrification and 1951 stock have a continuous roof over the end doors, whereas the standard and all-steel 'K'-type have the roof cut back over the end doors.

Brighton electrification stock had oval windows in the end of the coach either side of the gangway connection, instead of the rectangular one seen in the 'K' and 1951 stock.

[longbow]

Pullman coaches were not confined to named express services. I have a pic somewhere of a short Pullman rake at Dorchester carrying VIPs to a fleet review at Portland. And a couple of them ended up as camping coaches behind Wool station.

[chrism]

Pullman coaches were not confined to named express services. I have a pic somewhere of a short Pullman rake at Dorchester carrying VIPs to a fleet review at Portland. And a couple of them ended up as camping coaches behind Wool station.

There's still a couple at Ravenglass.

[crewearpley40]

Pullman coaches were not confined to named express services. I have a pic somewhere of a short Pullman rake at Dorchester carrying VIPs to a fleet review at Portland. And a couple of them ended up as camping coaches behind Wool station.

There's still a couple at Ravenglass.

two are with the VSOE pullman stewarts Lane in london

[PLD]

a couple of them ended up as camping coaches behind Wool station.

There's still a couple at Ravenglass.

I believe the Ravenglass coaches are the type preceding the K-types.

The Railway Heritage Register states built 1921 for both...
http://www.cs.rhrp.org.uk/se/CarriageInfo.asp?Ref=2220
http://www.cs.rhrp.org.uk/se/CarriageInfo.asp?Ref=2218

[GlenEglise]

Can anyone confirm that this is a "K" Pullman

https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/rock_dinosaur/77029914/656499/656499_1000.jpg

Restaurant Composite car No. Sc219M (formerly Pullman Car Queen Margaret, built in 1927) is about to be removed from the rear of the 11.45am Oban to Glasgow train at Glasgow (Buchanan Street) Station by ex-LMSR Class 4 2-6-4T No. 42207.

[talisman56]

Can anyone confirm that this is a "K" Pullman

https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/rock_dinosaur/77029914/656499/656499_1000.jpg

Restaurant Composite car No. Sc219M (formerly Pullman Car Queen Margaret, built in 1927) is about to be removed from the rear of the 11.45am Oban to Glasgow train at Glasgow (Buchanan Street) Station by ex-LMSR Class 4 2-6-4T No. 42207.

It is a 'K' type Pullman, but from the look of the raised beading it is not an all-steel car, so not one of those to be produced by RevolutioN.

[GlenEglise]

Thanks Talisman. I miss out again I think.

Guess these are non-starters also?

Running Name Schedule No. Type Service Builder Wheels Roof Dimensions Seating Weight SECR Route Newsletter Notes
Lady Nairne 138 142 DC 6/22 MRC&W 8 elliptical 57'10 x 8'7 12F 18T 321/2 - -- 27 Caledonian Railway cars built on the chassis of an ex GWR WW1 Ambulance car.
Bonnie Jean 139 143 DC 6/22 MRC&W 8 elliptical 57'10 x 8'7 12F 18T 321/2 - -- 28 Both cars initially used on the Glasgow to Aviemore service.

[talisman56]

Thanks Talisman. I miss out again I think.

Guess these are non-starters also?

Running Name Schedule No. Type Service Builder Wheels Roof Dimensions Seating Weight SECR Route Newsletter Notes
Lady Nairne 138 142 DC 6/22 MRC&W 8 elliptical 57'10 x 8'7 12F 18T 321/2 - -- 27 Caledonian Railway cars built on the chassis of an ex GWR WW1 Ambulance car.
Bonnie Jean 139 143 DC 6/22 MRC&W 8 elliptical 57'10 x 8'7 12F 18T 321/2 - -- 28 Both cars initially used on the Glasgow to Aviemore service.

Yes, both are earlier than the all-steel cars, and additionally fail because they were built onto previously-used chassis.

[Papyrus]

Fabulous news! I only wish I could justify buying some.  . Turning my East Anglian rural branch line into a heritage railway seems a bit of a cop-out. Although, it would mean I could justify running my bigger locos...

Needs thinking about. 

Cheers,

Chris

[acko22]

Fabulous news! I only wish I could justify buying some.  . Turning my East Anglian rural branch line into a heritage railway seems a bit of a cop-out. Although, it would mean I could justify running my bigger locos...

Needs thinking about. 

Something tells me you have already thought about it previously 

[Papyrus]

Not really, no. It was salivating over the thought of a Revolution Pullman that triggered the idea!

Cheers,

Chris

[Hailstone]

Well Done Revolution! like many others I have wanted someone to produce a set of K type Pullmans to modern standards. As to the price, it is no surprise to me that they will be £45-£50. although my wallet may have a heart attack I will consider it money well spent. for those who think it too much, i suggest waiting until these arrive, then looking at ebay for the old Graham Farish ones to appear as I am sure they will.

Regards,

Alex 

[Bealman]

They'll be brilliant. Can't wait!