Correcting a poor attempt at weathering

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Newportnobby

Quote from: pinball on January 14, 2024, 09:09:13 AMprobably with a dark brown or dark grey rather than pure black, just to highlight them a bit more - especially on a white model.

Not black, but Railmatch 'frame dirt' which, I accept, does look quite dark

Newportnobby

I snaffled a bargain at the Preston show - a 6 pack of weathered mineral wagons (according to the label). They were certainly not filthy enough for me.




So they were attacked with some acylics, resulting in these. Does the collective think they look too 'blotchy' please?



maridunian

Not at all too blotchy. Personally, I'd say the most important thing when weathering is reflecting that every wagon will have a slightly different life story, so weathering varies from wagon to wagon. Some rustier, some dirtier, some more faded, some affected by brake dust, some having oil/grease stains, some repaired, etc, etc.

It seems overkill for wagons, but copying different prototypes can bring in realistic variation.

https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brmineralweld

Mike
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Newportnobby

Thanks, Mike.
And with coal loads - this shot might show the individuality of the wagons as they are all hand painted


Bad Raven

Dave

crewearpley40

#20
Looking good this weathering mick.

https://youtu.be/cD8divD3Upo?si=J0xIE4laNYoWEKuy

Worth a view





Another lot of simple techniques
On the subject of adding loads I cut a strip of balsa wood or mounting card in the wagon to the shape as measured above and fix with a dab of pva then add coal and watered down pva sprayed on and let dry


https://youtu.be/hSePhIv8YTU?si=KLVyw9yHySfEdtUY


https://youtu.be/ljWjCysTmCU?si=SOqxV3vbjyzAuHpM

I agree with Mike in reply #17


Maybe a cotton bud and weathering powders in recesses and wood / iron works would/ may work.

Bealman

Quote from: maridunian on March 04, 2024, 02:16:44 PMNot at all too blotchy. Personally, I'd say the most important thing when weathering is reflecting that every wagon will have a slightly different life story, so weathering varies from wagon to wagon. Some rustier, some dirtier, some more faded, some affected by brake dust, some having oil/grease stains, some repaired, etc, etc.

It seems overkill for wagons, but copying different prototypes can bring in realistic variation.

https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brmineralweld

Mike

Wow, look at at all those! Who'd ever have thought there would have been people running around back in the day taking pictures of filthy old mineral wagons!
Vision over visibility. Bono, U2.

Train Waiting

I think these 'sixteen-tonners' look totally terrific and not too blotchy.

I saw lots of these when I mis-spent as much of my blotchy youth as I could on an Andrew Barclay 0-4-0ST pushing them around.

The combination of acidic coal dust, the wet Ayrshire climate and the salty sea air at the harbours, where a lot of the coal was couped into ships for Ireland, meant that the wagons had a hard life.

I think the trick is to mix a few wagons in better condition and, perhaps, one or two that look like they have just come out of Barassie C&W Works into your trains.








With all good wishes.

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Papyrus

Quote from: Train Waiting on March 05, 2024, 09:03:07 AMI saw lots of these when I mis-spent as much of my blotchy youth as I could on an Andrew Barclay 0-4-0ST pushing them around.

The combination of acidic coal dust, the wet Ayrshire climate and the salty sea air at the harbours, where a lot of the coal was couped into ships for Ireland, meant that the wagons had a hard life.



Blimey, John! It's a wonder you have lived to a ripe old age!

Cheers,

Chris

geofff

#25
Hello Newport Nobby

I don't think that you have anything to concern yourself with over your weathering. The attached is for sale on EBay.


Geoff


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/166626306922?


Train Waiting

#27
Quote from: Papyrus on March 05, 2024, 03:41:15 PM
Quote from: Train Waiting on March 05, 2024, 09:03:07 AMI saw lots of these when I mis-spent as much of my blotchy youth as I could on an Andrew Barclay 0-4-0ST pushing them around.

The combination of acidic coal dust, the wet Ayrshire climate and the salty sea air at the harbours, where a lot of the coal was couped into ships for Ireland, meant that the wagons had a hard life.



Blimey, John! It's a wonder you have lived to a ripe old age!

Cheers,

Chris


'Ripe old age' indeed !  I consider myself to be a callow youth...

The biggest heath hazard was undoubtably the tea.  Brewed over the weighouse fire in a massive black kettle with the tea and shovelsful of sugar in the kettle.  And with, wait for it, 'Marvel' powdered milk also in the kettle.  Does anybody remember 'Marvel'?

My tea was served in an old 'Marvel' tin.  Even at this distance in time I can remember how vile it was but I'd gladly go back and sit on the floor drinking it and listening to these wonderfully kind men yarning away.  I must have been accepted, because the Union was a frequent subject for complaint and this would not be done within earshot of an 'outsider'.

No 16 sat patiently outside, awaiting our pleasure, whilst these refreshments were taken.

So not to cause a thread diversion, I now present an especially dodgy picturingham of a nicely weathered 'sixteen-tonner' with the pit bing as a suitably picturesque background.  It was taken with my Kadak 'Instamatic'.





With all best wishes.

John
Please visit us at www.poppingham.com

'Why does the Disney Castle work so well?  Because it borrows from reality without ever slipping into it.'

(Acknowledgement: John Goodall Esq, Architectural Editor, 'Country Life'.)

The Table-Top Railway is an attempt to create, in British 'N' gauge,  a 'semi-scenic' railway in the old-fashioned style, reminiscent of the layouts of the 1930s to the 1950s.

For the made-up background to the railway and list of characters, please see here: https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=38281.msg607991#msg607991

Newportnobby

Smashing memories, John, especially of the 'Marvel' although I must have been a bit snooty as I never drank from a 'Marvel' tin :no:

Bealman

Funny, I was studying a Marvel tin in the Tasmanian Museum yesterday!  :thumbsup:
Vision over visibility. Bono, U2.

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